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Rad Oktober

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." So said legendary British football coach Bill Shankly. Despite the UK's passion for the beautiful game, comments here suggesting that the assassination attempt is a false flag operation in revenge for the UK losing the opportunity to host the World Cup to Russia are highly amusing.

As Russia seems to be a bit clueless with their foreign policy these days, I'll end with a great piece of advice from Bill: 'If you’re not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we’ll discuss your options afterwards.'

Rad Oktober

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." So said legendary British football coach Bill Shankly. Despite the UK's passion for the beautiful game, comments here suggesting that the assassination attempt is a false flag operation in revenge for the UK losing the opportunity to host the World Cup to Russia are highly amusing.

As Russia seems to be a bit clueless with their foreign policy these days, I'll end with a great piece of advice from Bill: 'If you’re not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we’ll discuss your options afterwards.'

kuzmich

Sir guest-aaawwwmj

I suggest you checking your food continuously and bring us up-to-date. The next step is to show here any real evidence and not to tell us fake stories about Russian involvement. Looks like the Brits along with Teresa May being carried away by televisions series Strike Back. One of the episodes shows exactly the same story on gas “novichok” brought by Teresa May in the UK parliament. Events in Britain I would call “Colin Powell Tube Syndrome”

guest-aaawwwmj

So the Brits booted 23 Russians.
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How many will the EU - who said they would stand with Britain - boot?
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Will the Brits, the EU, and the rest of the world boycott the big
soccer shindig in Russia this year?
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Will the soccer players attend, knowing their food and drink could be laced with poison or steroids?
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Will the companies that broadcast those games pull the plug?
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Another pitiful response from the West - which only encourages the Russians.
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NSFTL
Regards

kuzmich

It was a quick investigation done by lovely Teresa May. Feels like she had top grades in chemistry of gasses. A question immediately arises ‘who would benefit from it and into whose hands the game was played?’ Sure Russia would not benefit from the killing of a former Spy of Her Majesty swapped for some Russian spies long time ago. Check on such Russian characters like an ex-KGB chief Kalugin leaving peacefully in US or Gordievsky the top spy who sold out entire Russian agent network in the UK and Europe living now peacefully somewhere in England for several decades. You don’t need to be an expert just to simply realize that this omnidirectional anti-Russian campaign is in full swing including sports, culture, relations and the like. The Brits cannot forgive Russia the lost to host the Football Cup.

However look at such a simple fact. You must know Porton Down situated just northeast of the village of Porton near Salisbury, in Wiltshire. It’s been known for over a century as the top secret military research facility. In 40s and 50s the facility worked on different agents and applied them on British servicemen.
Until 2001 the military installation of Porton Down was part of the UK government's Defence Evaluation and Research Agency when it was split into QinetiQ, initially a fully government-owned company, and the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory .
I think it would be interesting for Teresa May and her mates to investigate business done by the Defence Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Centre military facility at Winterbourne Gunner in Wiltshire, south of Porton Down and about 4 miles northeast of Salisbury. The centre is responsible for all training issues relating to chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear defence and warfare for the UK's armed forces.

What a coincidence that the murder happened to be in close vicinity of the Defence Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Centre military facility. I wonder what the West aiming at. Putin will be President again since after these “accusations” his popularity soars.

daley1686

It will be interesting to see how Britain matches up with a middling power like Russia even while in the throes of Brexit and with little support from a very wobbly Trump. If there was ever a crisis ready-made to confer stature on Theresa May, this is it. She's demanded that Russia confess to weakness in the control of weapons, or guilt in their use. That's mighty bold talk, as Ned Pepper once said. But she may be able to make it stand up, with support from Europe and America. And it may help Britons to focus a bit more on the isolation and vulnerability that could follow exit from the EU.

john4law

Short of an ADMISSION by Putin himself he Ordered or Authorized the Nerve Agent attacks, there is NO WAY there can be ABSOLUTE certainty this was Putin's Hand at work. It would have been IMPOSSIBLE for such an attack to be organized and carried out UNLESS Putin authorized the apparatus for planning, executing and ABOVE ALL protecting the perpetrators of these Nuclear and Nerve Agent attacks with technology ONLY Russian Security has access to. If this truism of official sponsorship, protection and cover up of these weapons of Mass Destruction attacks is deemed INSUFFICIENT for "sanctions", then Putin and Company have a Green Light to devastate at will. The Present British Government by placing fanciful standards of finding and punishing responsibility for these attacks is engaging in APPEASEMENT of the Worst Kind. When Jeremy Corbyn gets in, Putin might as well be President of Britain for all that Left Loony Labor is going to do to stop him.

john4law

My two cents is wagered on Britain REPEATING past No Action Talk Only posturing. Putin KNOWS Britain won't invest in serious military power or options and is a Sitting Duck for his Spectacular Nuclear, Chemical and soon biological attacks and intimidation capabilities. When Labor takes over, Putin can poison whole neighborhoods and Lefty, Looney Corbyn will GLADLY be Putin's Chief Apologist. Iron Clad proof of Labor's subservience to Putin's Terror is found in Today's Address by Corbyn in the House of Commons:
"We need to continue seeking a robust dialogue with Russia on all the issues dividing our countries, both domestic and international - rather than simply cutting off contact and simply letting tensions and divisions get worse, and potentially even more dangerous."

kiratwan

Spies swap took place in 2010. Why Russia decided to kill ex spy
after 7-8 years? I hope he recovers and shed some light-person
he and his daughter were with and location and where about of
this person. This information will help reach a definitive conclusion
on Russian involvement.

guest-aaawwwmj

Not really worried about poisoning and modern espionage.
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What matters most is what the powerful EU will do to Russia.
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EU promises solidarity with Britain over Russian spy poisoning
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http://www.dw.com/en/eu-promises-solidarity-with-britain-over-russian-sp...
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Probably the same as when the Russian stooges shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.
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Good luck Europe, and a stiff spine to you - once the US pulls out of NATO.
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Go ahead, slap tariffs on US goods.
The average US voter will agree to stop subsidizing NATO as the ultimate retaliation.
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NSFTL
Regards

Michael Dunne

This incident and others are pretty disturbing, especially given that exotic toxins being employed, and given the fact that the Cold War ended a generation ago (almost 30 years ago).
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As for the Cold War, I thought there were cases of assassinations? At least of some defectors/dissidents living abroad? Thinking of Bulgarian umbrella poisoning incident back in 1978 in London ...