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Most Christian clergy today (also US) forgo the concept of ministry in regards to immigration. They not only open their arms, they open our wallets. While bypassing the missionary opportunity, by encouraging those assisted to honor and thank any god they choose-- even assisting them in that worship.
I have been uplifted by your words, "No Christian worth his salt would ever sit through most services of todays organized zombie Christian denominations".
The generalisation expressed in the title "Clergy are colliding with Christian soldiers across Europe" is false.
There are countries in Europe where the reverse seems to be true. For example, in Poland the current populist, nationalistic and xenophobic government of the PiS (Law and Justice) party works hand-in-hand with the dominant, ultra conservative Roman Catholic Church hierarchy. Moreover, the support for the government in the electorate has been growing since their election more than two years ago. This makes the trend even stronger. Opposition is demoralised, disorganised and ineffective.
Note that ~89% people in Poland identify with a religion. Of these, approximately 98% are Roman Catholic. This is not a fringe sect.
Caring for the marginalized is a professed core of the Christian belief. However, another core belief---at least for Catholics and Evangelicals---is that birth control, abortion, homosexuality and women's rights are of the devil. Accusing such an institution of being leftist is silly.
European churches are traditionally closest to Christian democrats, i.e., mainstream right-of-center parties. This article seems rather confused.
Thanks for using capital letters when stressing TODAY. It confirms the perversion of Christ teachings by the Roman Church from day one to this very moment (the endless sexual and financial scandals, etc.) - something the whole world knows but prefers not to denounce again now that Cardinal Bernard Low passed away.
I am sorry if you were hurt by my comments but truth occasionally brings about such reactions in Catholics.
Finally, the unbelievable crimes committed by the Roman Church along 1500 years plus cannot be 'compensated' or 'forgiven' by some nice but not necessarily sincere posture adopted by the current Pope and the Curia.
Season's Greetings and Happy New Year to you, jusdoc.
I think it is not so much as emotion over reason, unless what you mean by "emotion" is the fear of the unknown and unknowable, which fear gives rise to a fixed belief that is fashioned to provide certainty over matters that cannot be ascertained except on blind faith.
I personally do not slight any person who needs to live by abiding a faith like that. It is a very human need. This is particularly true when a belief leads to deeds and actions that are kind instead of cruel to other fellow human beings.
The Red Line is drawn when respecting the freedom to believe requires condoning the act of a believer in a faith in knocking a nonbeliever over the head with their prejudgment, and, along with that prejudgment, everything else in a human life, notwithstanding, in the case of Christianity, its ghastly history of dastardly deeds done to other humans, continuing to this very day.
If you believe the clergy are apolitical then you are a fool.
Hi Noijmmiw, Happy New Year to you!
The folks you spoke of on the Far-Right have their own version of "Political Correctness". Their fight is all about Whose PC is More PC. Hence the *Battle of Labels*.
These guys have nothing inside their heads except "Labels". Ask them for a FACT, they give you a Label. Ask them to think, they proceed to string a string of Labels. When their complete vacuousness crashes them flat on the ground, they'd try the trick of *changing the subject* ("who sin more" is their perennial favorite, with its standby and ever-ready prefab conclusion: "of course you do", presumably to mean "therefore they are absolved of theirs"). When even "changing the subject" fails to draw any water, they go nuclear - they *Pretend Can't Read*, and issue a most bewildering set of nonsequiturs and/or ad hominem attack for an "exit" from their excruciating nonsense. And then they wonder why if there is a Heaven and this Heaven is where they go in the next life, many would prefer to go the hell, since no hell could be worse than the one they have wrought on Earth.
Re your second point -
Many Extremist on the Left are too untempered. They do fail to see all things are not ALL black v. ALL white. There really are many colors in the color spectrum. Monochromism is not the virtue of a serious thinker.
Indeed, Perrodin, permit me to intrude for 60 seconds here. Exhorted on his deathbed (by the priests) at least to repudiate the devil, unbeliever Voltaire replied, "Is this a time to be making enemies?" (sorry, I read it only in the English translation). Voltaire died in Paris on May 30, 1778. His friends, fearing he would not be allowed a proper burial, secretly took his body to the Abbey of Scelliéres, a hundred miles from Paris, to be buried. It was 13 years after his death and 2 years after the Revolution that his remains were transferred to the Panthéon.
"natterer", from "to natter": to talk idly and at length.
Khomeini: born September 24, 1902; died June 3, 1989.
Further information: Hillary Clinton (aka "the Hildabeast") lost the election; Obama is no longer President, Trump is; neither Obama nor Trump are Muslims.
(If you don't believe me, check with guest-ajalease.)
That - "noses in other people's crotches" - appears to be the fixation and fetish of Extreme Religionists.
There are a few theories on the formation of a "fetish".
Bottom line is when a fetish does not require doing harm and injury to someone else, or intruding on the privacy of someone else, it is the fetish-er's own business. Trouble is these fetish-ers knock on your door, punch you on the nose, and then claim they are the ones "persecuted". Very strange people.
WHEN the pope himself thinks that Mary and joseph were immigrants in Bethlehem it’s easy to see how the rest of the clergy get confused.
No bigger snowflakes out there than the right wing who complain about political correctness and then rant about the war on Christmas. In the US the so-called party of Christians promotes policies that are anything but Christian. They demonize the poor and worship greed. They promote judgmentalism while parading around their Christianity like those people Jesus warned about that make such a public show. Religious membership is down in the US mostly because of the hatred and vitriol of those extremists from the right.
The German state pays clerical salaries so they dance to the tune of Merkel, accepting the flood of economic immigrants from the muslim nations, and to hell with the Europeans.
Yes, Christianity is being dismantled in Western Europe, wearing a cross to work will get you fired but muslims with impunity can stop traffic with their prayers and Christian churches now ring with Koranic verses and the leftist European clergy bows to Mecca. Europe is fallen, is fallen, is fallen.
Meanwhile Iranians are shouting 'Death to Khomeini' and The Economist rolls over and goes back to sleep.
Now that Obama no longer appeases Iran with pallets of cash that the IRGC uses to fund wars and factions like the Houthis and Hezbollah, Assad and Hamas, the Iranians are getting hungry. But the Economist doesn't want to expose the truth that the Iranian nuclear swiss-cheese agreement was another of Obama's big failures.
The muslim saint Obama is spotless.
Well old fruit, this “swimming against the ceramic whirlpool of reality” merits a further Bulletin….
I may be wrong but by Jove I think I have it right this time!
So just try this one on for size, old chap : seems we now have a real two pronged attack on my USE and its €Z gulag.....what?
If the cabbage-guzzler doesn't kerb its inflation then he will get very uppity and demand rate rises thereby screwing the rest of the members....d’ye see? Mark ye that, old trout!
Remember the previous time the ECB worked for the benefit of the sausage-fancyin’ wallah?... Well problems did ensue....didn’t y’ever notice? This time it will be terminal chaos in the med, an’ we Ports will be in the thick of it, mark ye that. Italian elections will be pesky to boot…A choice conundrum for our thousand year Reich what…..hic! ....(zounds I was on form last night)….where was I...zzzzzzz…
…zzzzzz….needed that….oh yes….pure bedlam there…Time to man up my revered ECB with a few sound Port zealots like me. That desperado of a macaroni Draghi said that the quantitative easing flatus would cease by last September but this last 3 months of 2017 it has accelerated fit go pop, me old hearty! Macaroni tries to keep it under his titfer….but wise all-seein’ ol’ Sammy is not for foolin’ is he…then we’ll hoist our glorious flag over the Urals…with Europe in an impoverished bedlam! The euro will........as I've told you many times before....but you were not listening....and you just laughed at me…will then go from strength to strength and the master plan will be completed......for the United State of Europe........the army is being formed and Brexit will be stopped.........ol’ son o’ a gun…. Yet as ever...you all mock my ministrations of Bulletins.........but you will find out who's right, by Centino..........We’ll show you how not to be laughin’ at me now as my USE rises over the Urals to make the Russians another colony….eh....my other macaroni-munchin’ bint Mussogherini will see to it…no error…an’ the miserable sausage savourer will accept orders…vorwärts… just you wait an’ see how I have it right!….zzzzz… hic!…parp!….zzzzz
You heard it here first......sonny…...an' a quick heads up….my USE is for keeps & nobody leaves...…an’ mind that…pá….zzzz
As ever prepped and keepin’ his wind at his back,
Sammy da Horta de Lisboa e de São Martinho do Porto!
Great post! Could not have been better put. Truly, if there once was a Jesus of Nazareth, he's been punished by crucifixation over and over and over and over and over...... again. The Haters are still at it. And they are always right.
It's less religion-bounded here in Europe, but it's basically the same: the far right wing is the one constantly ranting about the evils of political correctness etc., but then turn out to be the biggest whining snowflakes you could ever imagine. They claim to "defend Europe from muslim hordes", while we just see them as idiot snowflakes living in their mom's basement, afraid of a threat less likely to kill you than a cow. They are pussies: terrified by an imagined threat completely blown out of proportion for their own advantage by extreme right-wing ideologues.
Don't get me wrong, I equally dislike the alt left. But where people usually come to extreme left ideas by thinking too far and getting cut from reality, people usually come to extreme right ideas by the opposite: no or very superficial thinking while an extreme ideologue somewhere does the thinking in their place (and I'm saying that as someone on the right myself). So where the alt left can be really annoying, usually after much discussion they can be brought to reason because they actually think. You can't do that with the alt right: since they don't (have to) think for themselves they just see any thought diverging from the ideology as "treason", no matter how incoherent their own ideology.
It is getting rather bitter from what I can see.
Well as ye well know, a well-travelled old fellow such as this Port has garnered useful contacts everywhere imaginable. Those in Old Blighty would agree with your observation, the pitiful Remani have lost the plot and gone ape with bitterness, witness demented foamin' wibblin' Heseltine, and Blair who has become geriatric frazzled by realisation of his own unpopularity, did ye not see them?
Leavers agree that they are doing a splendid job for Leave! People like these are encouraged by those for a hard Brexit as the kiss of death for the Remanus cause, and that Brussels geegaw simply does the rest.
Brussels faces so many catastrophes for our teetering empire, all linin' up in 2018, an' crumblin' like an over-dunked digestive, what?
Now it has the arrival of elections that will see a plethora of EU-unfriendly governments in power as my empire is goin' fer broke to impose itself. Not pretty, eh, old salt?
The summary of this Bulletin lies in the fact that It will all start hitting the ventilator in March, just look see if I'm not right. So with the resultin' chaos, regardless of ditherin' Remanus Mayhem doin' th' splits with her 'negotiations', events will ensure a hard brexit as the EU will be incapable of making it otherwise, old sport. Popcorn out!
I leave you with that solid prediction for 2018.
Sammy da Horta de Lisboa e de São Martinho do Porto!
Hohoho… “the plan to escape the EU's clutches?”… but that wise old fox Sammy was always going to be several steps afore ye. I take it ye refer to dithering Remaynus May’s attempts to forestall the irreversible rupture that has taken root, for the point of no return has been passed long since. Ties should have been cut many moons ago. A useful side-effect has been the damage below the waterline of my project’s credibility… I’m a Brussels man, didn’t ye know…we rued the Brexit vote, because now we are no longer the flavour we once were…anywhere, even down unto the lowliest of scroungers, by Juncker! Game over, by the ECJ!
Remaynus May?....Her dwindling Remayni allies, for whom she always caters, show themselves in the most self-harming and ignorant light, by George, volunteering for punishment beatings from Brussels should their wish to remain be fulfilled. Even my fellow Brussels wallahs admit this squalor.
No, by Barnier, the EU has shown itself in its most dictatorial grasping and desperate light throughout…look see what will come to pass should the clueless Maybot factotum in No 10 allows Clegg a knighthood! Like his Brussels masters, he has achieved nothing in his entire life. That Merkel bloke together with the various lackeys and dregs it appointed to Brussels positions are particularly disliked for her anti-brexit role, as if any further touches were needed to poison the London-Berlin waters!
Without lifting a finger, Brexit was the first instructive rumbling before the storm that is battering my ever more desperate broken Brussels from all compass points…verily unto oblivion, despite the enormous pay rise that we awarded ourselves for Christmas. Even the Swiss, who are leaving the EEA at the time of “official” Brexit in 2019 (and the last vestige of any Brussels jurisdiction should there be an extant EEA for Brussels to scrounge from by then). Those alpine cheese-heads also have a serious currency unlike my EU, already have joined the fray by cocking a concrete snook at the price of subsiding Eastern infrastructure.
So til next time with his wind always at his back,
S de L e de SM!
Religion is the handmaiden to and the creation of emotion over reason, fiction over fact, ans superstition over science.
While there are many superficially thoughtful people who take religion seriously, the real thinkers are less than parochial and paternalistic. Yet it is the superficial and parochial who wail the loudest and grotesquely misapply the most basic of religious lessons.
America is a classic case where the least educated are the most religiously overheated and parochially bigoted part of our country. Sadly, these people helped to elect a con and a bully and a bigot who now goes about as a wolf in sheep's clothing, the very antithesis of what religion claims to be. How very, very sad!