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ashbird in reply to Perrodin

Sure is getting more and more interesting, isn't it. Perrodin.
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So "Liberals" are -
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* Mentally Ill
* Have Dandruffs
* Ugly if female
* All on Welfare
* All have student loans
* All travel in Hostels
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America is going to be great again. Very great, so great it is unprecedented.

ashbird

Great business idea! Go for it!
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I suppose guests will be spared ghastly cheap wall hangings, unfresh macaroons and terrible food. Ain't no Claridges, or Four Seasons George V, or Peninsula.
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BUT at $400 a night average, The DC Trump Hotel actually is very reasonable for the spacious rooms and very good house-keeping (wonder whom they hire. :)).
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Key for Eaton Workshop, a global chain with a new business model, is going to be pricing. I suppose it will hold a lot of professional conferences (like APA and AMA), TED-type of lectures and audience. Not a bad business model. And different retail anchor tenants. Particularly when indentity politics is the call of the day. Nothing else counts as much.
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A Reasoned Voice

It shouldn't come as a surprise to most TE readers. Branding works. That's why so many businesses spend so much on trying to create well known brands.

Trump has always understood this, which is why all of his businesses carry the Trump brand. And he has always operated on the belief that any publicity is good publicity. Bad publicity may not work for high market-share brands like Coca-Cola, but it can work well for niche brands like his. Even if 90% of potential customers boycott a business, it doesn't matter if the other 10% are brand-loyal. A loyal10% market share is pretty good success for most businesses.

I think that is why he really doesn't care that his tweets are received negatively by most, and why he keeps doing it. They keep his name in the news, and they reinforce brand loyalty among the loyal minority, even if they alienate the majority. In business, a 10% loyal following is usually more profitable than a lukewarm 51%.

Unfortunately, what is good for Trump's brand is not what is good for the country. That is one of the reasons that historically U.S. voters were smart enough to understand that experience running a business doesn't translate to running a country. Ironically Trump will likely go down in history as both the worst President and the richest. Certainly, the one who made the most personal profit from having been President.

ashbird in reply to J Worthington

I think you may very well be suprised about the pricing, which is not yet available, as the hotel chain opens in 2018. Trump Hotel's $400/night is very cheap. A legitimate 5-star is $800/night and up.
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Sound more like, though, you are extremely eager to tell everyone what's it's like to bunk out in a "hostel". DO they have bathrooms? DO guests need to do it in a back alley?
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Personally, it is the first time I hear of "hostets". Thanks a bundle for the invaluable education I unexpectedly received, from evidently someone who knows it first-hand. You need help with student loan? I tell you what, just attend every Trump Rally and holler your support. In no time will you get all your loan money back, plus more.

ashbird in reply to Perrodin

Also, Perrodin, follow the train of thought in his long bird tale. Note the bird hid in a trash can, and there was a cigar. The person you think is benign is not. He is as malignant as any that belong in a jail or a ward. Likewise all his other bird tales directed at me. Each one carried a similar theme. He message is not a benevalent one. This is called harassment, Perrodin.

ashbird in reply to Nullifidian

Sound like this would be good news for you: Few 5-star hotels have bibles in their rooms now. Including the two major American conglomerates - Western International and Intercontinental. Then there are the Peninsula Group (famed for its fleet of Rolls for shuttling guests to and from places). And the Four Seasons Group, and the Shangri-La group (they use Mercedes). The world is very big. It consists of more than USA. Truly, I am not lying. Look at the map. AND, most importantly, whether GOP or Democrat, Left of Right, Liberal or Conservative, not everyone in the world is a hillbilly hick.

ashbird in reply to Duckdodger

Totally.
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Don't worry. That's next after the Russian thing. The more brazen things get, the lighter the burden of proof. And they will go that direction, b/c the bad guys are getting desperate.
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As far as the trolls, they don't care, they get paid per nonsense post. Notice these folks never have anything to say except ad hominem innuendos, insults and epithets.
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God knows America does not deserve this. It was a great country. Let's hope all this will pass. I think they will. Just need a little patience. Crooks can only fool some of the people some of the time, not all the people all of the time,

ashbird in reply to Perrodin

Re "A rude person". None of my business if his wife is or is not watching. The rudeness is not acceptable. Totally off topic for one thing. It's his right to make a clown of himself.

ashbird in reply to Michael Dunne

I agree with your point. Michael. 100%
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Notice my stand-alone post, first in time sequence, addresses the business model of what the article describes, which I think is pretty neat, along with my own description of Trump Hotel, DC - some cons (their macaroons, at least when I had them, really were stale) and some pros (spacious rooms and clean linen).And not expensive for the location.
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Others were all "in reply's".
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Before I knew it, I was drawn into a veritable culture war. If you note the time sequence of my "in-reply's", the first was "Pale Book Worms" for "Liberals" - where on earth does that notion come from?? Liberals are "pale bookworms??!!" Do you, would you, Michael, know??
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Then this quaint locust (the correct Spanish to English translation) wrote this peculiar long thing about Birds. Not his first time. This is his 8th time. Previously they were red cardinals and blue jays. The peculiar man appears to have a bird fetish of some sort of clinical proportions, which he can't help making an exhibition of on TE forums. You never know what you'd encounter on TE forums. A mighty exciting place if you need an vacation from serious work

ashbird in reply to Michael Dunne

I see. "A particular form of rhetoric".
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Now that's worth learning about.
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But how old are these posters now???? Are they 200 year old returning from the past, or 20 years old junior high school kids, flunk-outs, drops-outs, dope addicts, or AWOL lunatics or what? Why are they so hostile to anyone who is: A) poorer then they, B) richer than they, and C) Better educated than they? Why do they keep spewing the kind of nonsense they spew? Liberals and Conservative come in all colors, sizes, wealth, or lack of wealth, and certainly genders and races and faiths. What on earth is the matter with them that they are ONLY able to see ALL THINGS in the world as EITHER ALL THIS PHANTOM or THAT PHANTOM. NOTHING they say is real. Are they deliberately joking, or seriously halluncinating, or, as others have observed, jsut trolls, and some Russian trolls.
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These Qs have to be asked. Because the utterances of these folks make no sense. There isn't even a baseline opinion (forget facts, facts belong to another planet for these folks) you can put your finger on for an agreement or disagreement. They simply spew things that don't make any sense. What is that all about???
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I have an appt to rush to. I read your answer when I return. Thanks, Michael.

ashbird in reply to Michael Dunne

Hi Michael,
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Thanks you for your replies to me @ Nov 21, 19:00 and 16:15, as well as a couple of others that I read addressed to others.
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As usual, you teach me about things about America that I didn't know before - history and aspects of culture that I didn't have a chance to learn. The cultural part is particularly challengingn to a late-comer. No one can read a book (or half a page of a book, or a line in a book) and be so presumptuous as to claim they know everything about a culture. Even for America that is only 240 years old. Imagine other cultures that are 5000+ years old. But there are silly people, crazy people, stupid people, posers and poseurs of this that and the other stripes who would believe in their heart of heart they could now everything about everything via the big highway of ignorance.
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IN my own way, I am ignorant about a very large segment of American culture, not b/c I am not keen to learn, but b/c I am not a part of it - never was and probably never will be. I try to read as much as I can, and watch really gross televison programs (such as Jerry Springer and Apprentice) as much as I can, taking the perspective of a cultural anthropolist, to understand what appeals to the majority of "Americans" - what are the underpinnings that build this ever elusive term "American popularism", what all the strange labels mean ( the most basic and common 4 being "Liberal" , "Conservative", "Left", and "Right". I look at myself, honestly, as I understand what the 4 terms mean at this juncture of cultural assimilation, I can't say I belong to any one of them. They all are so bizarre - now even "dandruff" and "bookworms" get in the definitions and nomenclaure!!! halleluja jehosephet.
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I have myself experienced heaps of insults and abusive name-callings from a couple of Uber American Americans (there is one particularly noxious one, and this one for an entire 10 years to date; the person has the stench of the unmentionable) who apparently have never seen anyone, met anyone, conversed with anyone who is not a member of their clan by race and church by creed, and the store-card they carry for shopping daily necessaries (I understand mainly Walmart, nowhere else). So there is a lot for me to learn yet, even though I have studied, lived and worked in America for a great many years, and in my professional work, dealt with the whole spectrum of social classes from homesless druggies to multi-millionaires, from semi-illiterate (like cellmate of Manson who died yesterday) to famous Ivy League professors. But THAT is not enough immersion still. Goes to show how little we all know about things that are not easy to learn.
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A long-winded way to say Thank You. Thank you for my continuing education by way of a micro-inspection of the cultural and history of America.
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Re hotels, my favorite of all for functional purposes, not for fancy vacation, is HolidayInn Express. It is found in virtually all big cities. Even one in NYC. It is no frill, no nonsense, clean, serves a functional breakast included in the room rate , and if you book on a good travel site, you can find good discount bargains.
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Are you going back to school? Why would you be burdened with student loans? Just curious. You don't have to answer if that intrudes into your privacy.
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Again, thank you for the conversation. It does appear every 200 posts I write, I fetch a good one for reward. Not bad for a ROI.