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The more the US mainstream media engages with this orgy of Shadow Government sponsored unsubstantiated speculation, deliberate misinformation by the DNC, RINOS and Military Industrial Complex, and the Russophobic witch-hunts, the more complicit they are in undermining the very system they claim to be upholding.
A sign of the times - the implosion of the "exceptional" US empire of intimidation, coercion and hypocrisy. The House turns on itself and eats itself alive. And guess what, - they'll blame anyone else except themselves.
Gee, that sounds rather vague. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.
This stupendous McCarthyist garbage that is sweeping over the land of the "free" and home of the "brave" is starting to make the cold war seem tame. Soon, talking to anybody of Russian descent will be subject to scrutiny.
The fact of the matter is that all these captured US politicians, wholly owned subsidiaries of the industries of fraud, hypocrisy and war, cannot take a good hard look at themselves, nor the actions of America in the recent past.
They are clutching at straws over "possible links" with Russia while they seem to be OK with all the regime change, color revolution coups, hacking, and rampant meddling goings on abroad.
I think that sound we are hearing is the sound of the bubble of "US exceptionalism" popping.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, L-gharef....
"Not a single shred of evidence has been presented to link Trump and Russia"
Except for Mike Flynn
And Paul Manafort
And Carter Page
And Donald Jr stating "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets"
And.....more to come per Comey and Rogers.
QUICK- Better deflect to Hillary again!
As I've pointed out before, the GoP is a classic example of the law of unintended consequences. With the development of market research techniques in the 1950s and 1960s it became possible to identify distinct blocs of people sharing definable values and concerns. This enabled the huge US food companies and auto companies to target people more effectively. At the same time it enabled politicians to identify probable voting blocs that could be swayed by particular messages. The result was Nixon's "moral majority" which in turn led to more precise targeting and more precise messages. This approach was very successful, handing the Presidency to Reagan for two terms. Indeed, the approach was so successful that even a candidate as inadequate as Bush Jnr could exploit it to reach the White House.
But the problem with targeting simple-minded people with simple slogans is that eventually they come to feel that they would be good representatives, not just blocs of reliable voters. So they stand for election and, being able to convey simplistic ideas more convincingly than more sophisticated minds, they appeal more strongly to those who just like them are cognitively limited. Hence Gingritch's "peasant's revolt" and latterly the Tea Party. Such people lack the cognitive development necessary to grasp the fundamentals of civic life; they see the world in simplistic black-and-white my-camp/enemy-camp terms. Thus they undermine the fundamental precepts of democracy. Marketing enabled large corporations to sell junk products; it also enabled political Parties to sell junk politics.
Over time, therefore, the GoP went from capturing the simple-minded to being captured by them. It is not surprising that once in positions of power such people are truly incapable of grasping matters of importance in a coherent manner. Hence the bizarre behavior elucidated in this article. The GoP pols mentioned may not, as they appear superficially to be, mere vermin pursuing self-destructive short-term political "advantage" at the expense of the nation as a whole. They may simply be too stupid to understand the situation and its profound implications. More harm has been done through folly, ignorance, and sheer stupidity than has ever been done by cunning and foresight.
The USA is rapidly approaching its end, as must inevitably be the case when the bridge of the ship of state is manned largely by drooling squabbling idiots whose only semi-coherent thought is that they must at all costs (including the ultimate cost of the nation itself) defend their Great Orange Leader. Because, just to boost the flagging ratings of his ageing TV show, he decided to stand for election and for a joke chose to select the word Republican for his affiliation.
JPP, thanks for a great expository insert on how “what-about-ism” works. You are, of course, right. Most people, unless they are career crooks and/or malingerer of idiocy, are NOT stupid.
"What-about-ism" is rampant in cyberpace too, not just Bannon news, deloyed by folks who, hiding behind the shield of anonymity, knowing perfectly well they have not one leg to stand on for a substantive argument on an issue, change the subject to something else, often in form of calumnies. The more outrageous and often vulgar the calumny, the more effectice, they think . If you bite, the ploy succeeds.
And this is what democracy has come to under Trump.
There is no sign this very bad thing is abating. If anything, the very bad thing appears to be intensifying. Good. This way the bottom is hit sooner rather than later. Very good.
The headline is too generous to Trump. The FBI isn't investigating "possible" links between Trump and Russia. The FBI is investigating the ACTUAL links between Trump and Russia. The word "possible" should be removed from the title.
I guess there are some other possible links that could be investigated, but The Economist has editors who write well enough to know that the title (as currently written) gives many readers the impression that there are only possible links between Trump and Russia, when the known facts are that there are actual verified links tying Trump and Russia which are being investigated.
For example, Roger Stone to Russian hackers, Michael Flynn to Russian ambassador, Dmitry Rybolovlev who bought Trump's FL property for more than it was worth and who shows up to airports where Trump's plane is,... Page, Ross, Kushner, Trump Jr, all who have known and documented links to the Russians and Trump.
Come on, TE. You're better than this title. And after Trump accused your country's spy agency of illegal acts against Americans. For shame.
For Trump or ANY of his supporters to continue claiming he was wiretapped by Obama, you must believe that
1) the current FBI director is lying in a public, nationally televised congressional hearing.
2) And that the former director of national intelligence was lying.
3) And that Mike Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, is lying that Britain was not involved in a wiretapping program at the behest of the American government.
What goes around, comes around - 'lock him up'
Trump won; no question at all.
That said, the post is entirely believable. If you dislike what that says about Mr Trump, well life is like that sometimes.
This may be the weirdest message board for a pretty conventional and easy to understand Opinion piece from the Economist I have ever seen. I guess Russia needs to spend those disinformation rubles in some manner, but most of the posts here verge on the incoherent. And what is with all of the made up names?
Actually all you have to do is to believe Trump's tweets and hence all else is FAKE NEWS. Sad. There are none so blind as will not see.
I'm mystified by Trump's present position that leaking is the most important story. Only last October, in Pennsylvania, he said, "I love WikiLeaks!" And as I recall, he publicly invited Russia to hack Hillary Clinton and to leak what it found.
To quote the article:
'One of the most trusted Soviet techniques during the Cold War came to be known in the West as “what-about-ism”. '
"Campaigning for your party's nominee as the sitting president is the norm, but the level of which he got down and slanderous in the mud is unprecedented (for a sitting president)."
1) Care to share some specific examples?
2) Any particular reason why you're deflecting off topic to Obama/Hillary? You don't have to worry about them anymore....s
The issue of “Russia fcuked up our precious democracies” is propagated by hopelessly stupid people. Is this really an outcry about the Russian propaganda being superior to their own? Are they claiming defeat in the arena of opinion? Those stupid people ironically think they are so smart that only they can resist Russians “interference” and therefore must warn others, in their mind, less intelligent about the undefined danger of Russian opinion.
Was McCarthy’s fiasco worthwhile? Is sending young men to die for McCain's clan warmongering hallucinations worthwhile?
1) Comey can insinuate something about Anthony Weiner's laptop having connections to Hillary's e-mails a week before the election. He says NOTHING about Trump's links to Russia, even though Paul Manafort left the campaign because of obvious ties to Russia in August 2016.
2) Republicans spent countless hours and money investigating four deaths in Benghazi, even though nothing has been said about their phony war in Iraq that killed thousands of soldiers and half a million Iraqis (but generated trillions in profits for defense companies). And when Yemen recently happened, the politicized the widow of the Navy Seal who got killed because Kushner and Trump decided to do an operation in Yemen over dinner (between the appetizer and entree).
3) If Republicans in Congress can impeach Bill Clinton over his personal affair with Monica Lewinsky, then they can impeach both Bush and Trump. Will they? - not when their real base (elites) have money to make out of the American people (including the Republican's ignorant masses that vote against their interests).
What about Bengazi? What about the Clinton Foundation? What about Bill's affairs? what about Hilary's emails? What about the wiretapping? What about the Bowling Green Massacre? What about the Pizza Parlor Kiddie Porn ring? What about the fake Birth Certificate? What about Vince Foster? What about Obama as a Muslim sleeper agent? What about Obama coming for our guns? What about the Death Panels? What about Obama's plan to import Ebola to kill everyone in America. Now it's "What About the leaks?" Anyone who supports trump and the republicans after so many absolutely insane claims is not bothered by the latest one. They truly believe the Deep State is at work to make their super smart president look foolish. and it isn't working because they are too smart to be fooled by fake news. Lord, please let the rapture come before the midterm elections in 2018.
That must explain why Hillary won the popular vote by some 3-M votes, no?
This debate is useless. We in Russia don’t give a damn thing who rules America. Every 4-8 years bargain one trouble for another. Garbage in, garbage out.
Were you bitching about leakers when Wikileaks was working for Dump and against Hillary?
At his campaign clown shows, the Orange Liar actively encouraged Russian hacking and praised Wikileaks.
Leaks are a hypocritical Repugnican distraction from the Russia story. Nice try at deflection, kid.